We have danced around the issue before but..............

This time I want an honest answer.

Why do you all (and I include females as well) find the idea of two girls totally acceptable (and in some cases quite erotic) while the notion of two guys together has the majority of people squeamish at the very visual?

Why are both genders totally accepting of one guy and two girls together in a threesome, yet the thought of two guys and one girl brings gasps of homophobia from the men? I'm not suggesting the men need to leave the female in the corner and jump each other. I'm openly wondering why they can't even abide the thought of just being in bed with another guy even if they are both straight.

Come on. You all pee standing up together in clear view of each other? Is it really that much different in terms of visualisation and distance?

Because two chicks together is a turn on. Because two chicks and a guy is a wet dream. Because I don't run the risk of bumping bits when I'm standing peeing at a urinal.

Don't see what the issue is. Just set out clear rules prior, and its all sweet. Not that I've got any desire to relive my youth and start jumping into bed with more than one person. It worked at the time; over it now.

i believe this is a male hang up... they fear being considered as gay. And hence have an automatic turn off to seeing two men at it....

we are also all taught that two men buggering each other is unnatural and unclean, so this becomes a fear and a taboo...

two women together gets the more sensual stereotype, and becomes a male fantasy, and acceptable. Women follow the stereo type, by playing up to it all... even two very str8 women will hug and kiss for fun, and don't get hung up.. and men like it,

in porn men don't like to see cocks, the fear of homosexual threat, and hence the two women scene is safe!

I have a sort of advantage of perspective on this one! lol

As much as it pains me to admit it, I actually agree with Natasha. Think most men are homophobic by nature and just the mere thought of accidentally touching something by mistake is enough to make us shrivel up worse than stepping straight into a cold shower. And even the straightest of females seem to have no issue (and may even be slightly turned on) by watching lesbian/bi porn. Guys on the other hand don't even want to see two guys in bed together let alone getting physical.

lolol I'M NOT HOMOPHOBIC AT ALL I DON'T THINK. ITS JUST THAT I WOULD LOSE EXCITEMENT IF I SAW ANOTHER GUY. DOES NOT MATTER HOW HOT THE GIRL WAS.

WELL, IF IT WAS A GIRL OFF OF THIS SITE, MAYBE ( WINX )

I have to agree with Natasha too (oh btw hi Natasha & Styles, I'm Sarah :wave: )

You summed that one up well, but so did Ant..

I think it starts from as early as childhood that these thoughts repulse.. Do you guys remember some male/s in your life saying: ' oh no mate you're not playing with girls are you, I hope you're not gay' ? or even.. my son doesn't play with dolls!

<sigh> I think it's a shame.. not that men should leap into bed together or anything, but that it affects their psyche in the first place to place judgements on mates or other males.


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A woman who expresses herself intimately in a 3some situation with another woman is not automatically labelled as bi, so don't see why men should be treated any differently. We are nothing but products of societys rules and grow up conditioned as to what is and is not supposedly acceptable.

All you can really do is be true to yourself, and do what feels right for you at that particular time.

Sorry, don't think I could. Props to those who can leave their inhibitions at the door and explore all facets of their sexuality. Would never judge someone for it and am probably quite envious of them. But me personally, nah. I'd freak. Talk about performance anxieties.

Benj, you made an excellent point about labels, and that men view women as bi at a drop of the hat... but would not attach such label the themselves in they were in 3some where another guy was there.

I do believe it comes down to the male view of being with another guy.... they should chill out and explore things a little more... I used to feel the same way, but things can change SO MUCH

You need to drag Chaz, Dave or Frank into this thread. As the only mates I know of who have been brave enough to suck it up and go there, be interested in their opinions.

I'm still saying no, unless there was a minimum of 60 feet between myself and the other guy at all damn times.

homophobia................. odd thing really.......... the biggest homophobics are very often homosexuals or bisexuals in denial in fact

If I wanted to be with a guy, I'd be with a guy. At the end of the day the only person I am accountable to is myself. I choose to be with women because its the female form that turns me on. It's the female mind that excites me. Its simply what works for me. Have gay friends, have bi friends and the majority of them are far less judgemental and with less hangups than the majority of straight people you will come across.

If I choose to become involved in a threesome with two girls that makes me a stud. If I choose to become involved in a threesome with two guys and a girl supposedly my sexuality is then questionable. What a load of crap. Two girls can help make it a memorable experience for the guy, so why can't two guys work together to do the same for the girl? Just because two guys are working on achieving the same goal doesn't mean one of them is going to suddenly jump ship and become a raving homosexual on the spur of the friggin moment for christsake. You are who you are. Being naked in close proximity to someone of the same gender doesn't suddenly change the way you are wired, nor is it anyones business but your own. So to cut a very long story short, who gives a flying fuck as long as all the people concerned are cool with it.

Chaz hun, you have just gone up to legendary status in my eyes (although I'm still bribing Benj to get you into the corset the first opportunity I get).

I wouldn't expect the two guys to jump each other, well unless they wanted to because hell, I like a good perve as well as the next person. But I've never understood why they had so many issues with just being there naked and showing the woman a good time. Glad some men out there 'get it'. It's not about being a closet homosexual, it's about fulfilling the dreams/desires of another person.

Personally I have no desire to see two men get up close and personal, and if I was in bed with them would expect their attention to be directed towards myself. The thought of them even touching whilst I'm that close grosses me out.

The points getting all mixed up again.

Just because two guys are involved in a 3some with a girl, it does not mean that they have any inclination towards jumping each other. It isn't some grand plan to out themselves. They are not secretly living out their latent homosexual tendancies. Can't two people simply work together to bring pleasure to a third?

But taking another tact, as long as everyone involved is consenting, who gives a rats as to who jumps who? I don't want to know what goes on behind someones bedroom door. As long as its working for them, its nobody elses business.

But for those with a morbid sense of curiousity, I didn't jump Dave, he didn't jump me. No freaking out occured if heaven forbid one of us accidentally got too close to the other. I didn't suddenly find him irresistable and become all enamoured and want to screw him. And I think its pretty safe to say I didn't have that effect on him either pmsl.

Get over societys sterotypes and live a little. The only person you have to answer to is yourself after all, so do whatever feels right for you, both in and out of the bedroom.

Well said mate.

What?

I don't turn you on Frank? Never been so insulted in my entire life

I'm an adult. I'm the one responsible for my actions and the one who has to live with them. I do what I want, when I want and with who I want. If something feels right or good to me and its consensual then I'm going to do it and screw what anyone else thinks.

End of story.